Sunday, 28 November 2010

Persian Inventions Refuted

Persian Inventions Refuted/




1.THE BRICK -------- 6000 B.C.

Firstly,Aryans only Arrived on the Iranian Plateau in 1300 b.C ,and there have been bircks foudn dating to 10,000 Years old,The first sun-dried bricks were made in Mesopotamia (what is now Iraq), in the ancient city of UR in about 4000 BC, although the arch used for drying the bricks was not actually found.
They were also found in The Indus Valley civilization,but thsi only Dates From 3000 B.C.so the Suemrians had amde it Earlier.
persians only became a nation in 575 B.C and to say this sa  PErsian Invention is False.


2.THE WINE ---------- 5400 B.C., Invention of Wine. Discovery made by University of Pennsylvania excavations at Hajji Firuz Tepe in northwestern Iran.

A 2003 report by archaeologists indicates a possibility that grapes were used together with rice to produce mixed fermented beverages in China in the early years of 7000 BC. Pottery jars from the Neolithic site of Jiahu, Henan were found to contain traces of tartaric acid and other organic compounds commonly found in wine. However, other fruits indigenous to the region, such as hawthorn, could not be ruled out.

Though it is True The Earliest Tracw of wine as we know ti Today coems From northwestern irana dn Georgia,The Iranian people Themselves were nto even in North western iran and it was Ihabited by the Shulaveri-Shomu culture .wetehr they were a Proto/Georgian people or anatolian people,i dotn Know,because Proto/Georgian Triebs only ar mentioend in 1200 B.C.


in anycase it wouldnt have anything to do with Iranians!

GRAPE

actually,this is dishonesty at its Best,The Domestication of Grapes Happened in southern Turkey.


THE GUITAR ---------- 5000 B.C. , Gui means three in old persian and Tar means rope, guitar had three ropes at the beginning and changed with time

Actually  the guitar came From the Akkadian Rubaba.and Persians idnt Exist in 5000 B.C

the Greeks took the name for guitar rom the PErsians whom they ahd Gotoen it From and thats why it ahs a PErsian name,Not ebcause the PErsians Invented it.

FIRST PEARLS

Pearl oysters were gathered by ancient Sumerians along the Persian Gulf, as far back as 4000 years. and this wqs done in Variouis Parts of The world,PErsians didnt coem to Iran until 575 B.C,mabe the PRopogandists Confused the Persian Gulf,From wich the sumerians fathered their PEarls to Be Iran and therefore PErsians.


THE WATER BED  -------- 3600 B.C. , made of sheep's skin

Actually it Was The Babylonians who Created the first WaterBed.the PErsians shoudl Really look at Dates.anything before 575 B.C was not made by PErsians!



SANDALS--------- 3000 B.C.

Sandalias del Neolítico de Albuñol

Esparto sandals from the 6th or 5th millennium BC found in Spain.






BOOTS --------- 3000 B.C.
Spanish cave drawings from more than 15,000 years ago show humans with animal skins or furs wrapped around their feet.Furthermroe Iranians didtn Exist at this time PEriod.and maybe i am Wrong,but ddnt the Eskimo people have Boots when Iranains were Still Roaming the Plains



ART OF MINIATURE----------- 2600 B.C.
Firstly Iran9ans ddint exist´´2600 B.C´´Secondly Lets See some Early miniatures±

2060 B.C.E.





The earliest known example of miniature writing appears on a Sumerian cuneiform clay tablet measuring 1 5/16 inches by 1 5/8 inches. (Courtesy of The Lilly Library, Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana  -i Think the Iranains gto Confused with 2060 B.C and 2600 B.C.




CHARIOT ----------- 2000 B.C.


The animal-drawn wheeled vehicle probably originated in Mesopotamia about 3000 BCE. The earliest depiction of vehicles in the context of warfare is on the Standard of Ur in southern Mesopotamia, ca. 2500 BCE. These are more properly called wagons or carts, still double-axled and pulled by oxen or tamed asses before the introduction of horses ca. 2000 BCE. Although sometimes carrying a spearman along with the charioteer (driver), such heavy proto-chariots, borne on solid wooden wheels and covered with skins, may have been part of the baggage train (e.g., during royal funeral processions) rather than vehicles of battle in themselves[citation needed]. The Sumerians had also a lighter, two-wheeled type of cart, pulled by four asses, but still with solid wheels. The spoked wheel did not appear in Mesopotamia until the mid-2000s BCE.

and it was the Hittites)1800 B.C'that Invented Chariot Warfare.


BACKGAMMON ------- 1400 B.C., found in the Sistan-e-Baloutchestan region
yes lst read thw WHOLE PAGE in context




Excavations at Shahr-e Sokhteh (Persian شهر سوخته , literally "The Burnt City") in Iran have shown that a similar game existed there around 3000 BC. The artifacts include two dice and 60 checkers, and the set is believed to be 100 to 200 years older than the sets found in Ur, and on the board found at Shahr-e Sokhteh the fields are fashioned by the coils of a snake.

No Mention of Iranians or Persians!

also according to http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?historyid=ac02 it was created in UR as Early as 2000 B.C


FIRST AGRICULTURE SYSTEM ------- 1000 B.C., the Qanat
 a recently discovered falaj system in al-Ain, UAE, dates to 1000 BC, and another in Umm Safah, Sharja dates to the Iron Age  ,Iranians did not make these Systems it was most Likely the elamites.


DOMESTICATION OF GOAT

The most recent genetic analysis[6] confirms the archaeological evidence that the Anatolian Zagros are the likely origin of almost all domestic goats today. Another major genetic source of modern goats is the Bezoar goat; distributed from the mountainous regions of Asia Minor across the Middle East to Sind.[5]
Neolithic farmers began to keep them for easy access to milk and meat, primarily, also for their dung, which was used as fuel and their bones, hair, and sinew for clothing, building, and tools.[1] The earliest remnants of domesticated goats dating 10,000 years before present are found in Ganj Dareh in Iranian Kurdistan. Goat remains have been found at archaeological sites in Jericho, Choga, Mami, Djeitun and Cayonu; dating the domestication of goats in western Asia at between 8000 and 9000 years ago.[5] Domestic goats were generally kept in herds that wandered on hills or other grazing areas, often tended by goatherds who were frequently children or adolescents, similar to the more widely known shepherd. These methods of herding are still used today.


The Kurds did not even exist during thsi PEriod,LEt alone were they in the Zagros mountains.

Rescue of the Jews in Captivity in Babylone ----- 576 B.C. ; Cyrus saved them
He Also Buried people up to their necks in the Sand if they dint pay him Taxes.







HUMAN RIGHTS -------- 576 B.C. , cylinder of Cyrus the Great
Actually ´´Human rights´´are not mentioned in  the Cyrus Cylinder,and many historians now regard it as a Hoax.plz see my Article on the Matter.


PROTOCOL AND ETIQUETTE--------- rules of respect, of cultured civilization, of order and harmony of everyday life.
A philosopher named Ptah-Hotep, wrote the first book of etiquette during the Fifth Egyptian Dynasty, between 3580 B.C. to 3536 B.C. . The Instruction of Ptah-Hotep is the most ancient complete literary work existing.
 
In this papyrus book, Ptah-Hotep sets down the rules of behavior that all wise men should convey to their sons.
 

CRUCIFIXION --------- practiced at first in Persia
The earliest reference to crucifixion by impalement is found in the Code of Hammurabi (c. 1700 BCE). It says:
153. If a seignoir's wife has brought about the death of her husband because of another man, they shall impale that woman on stakes.(T. J. Meek, "The Code Of Hammurabi" in J. B. Pritchard (Ed.), The Ancient Near East: An Anthology Of Texts And Pictures, 1958, Princeton University Press: Princeton (NJ), p. 155. ')
With reference to the Code of Hammurabi, Ford considered this as the first documented instance of the crucifixion of women in antiquity. He said,
Crucifixion (impalement) is found in the Code of Hammurabi. The punishment for breaking through a wall in a house was death followed by impalement. Impalement after death reflects the crime; he pierced the wall, so his body is pierced. But another, even grosser punishment is inflicted upon an adulterous woman who instigated the death of her husband for the sake of her lover. In Code of Hammurabi, 153 we read: “If a woman has procured the death of her husband on account of another man, they shall impale that woman.”[
Also the Eighteenth dynasty of Egypt and  the Thirteenth dynasty Show Impalement 
See:
A. Scharff, "Ein Rechnungsbuch des Königlichen Hofes Aus Der 13. Dynastie (Papyrus Boulaq Nr. 18)", Zeitschrift Für Ägyptische Sprache Und Altertumskunde, 1922, Volume 57, pp. 51-68.

and H. S. Smith, The Fortress Of Buhen: The Inscriptions, 1976, Forty Eighth Excavation Memoir, Egyptian Exploration Society: London (UK), pp. 125-127 and Plate 29.)


  1. TROUSERS---------- first trousers were worn in the Achemenid period
    There is some evidence, from figurative art, of trousers being worn in the Upper Paleolithic. An example are the figurines found at the Siberian sites of Mal'ta and Buret'(Sarah M. Nelson, Gender in archaeology: analyzing power and prestige, Volume 9 of Gender and archaeology series, Rowman Altamira, 2004, ISBN 9780759104969, p. 85.)
ti si likely the Aryan nomads had tooken ti From the Siberians.

POLICE--------- first inspectors were "the Eye of The KING" created by Cyrus


Law enforcement in Ancient China was carried out by "prefects". The notion of a "prefect" in China has existed for thousands of years. The prefecture system developed in both the Chu(1030 B.C)and Jin (1100 B.C)kingdoms of the Spring and Autumn period. In Jin, dozens of prefects were spread across the state, each having limited authority and employment period.

FINAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE SUEZ CANAL ----- finished by Cyrus the Great
it was the Pharoahs of egypt who stated o hte suez Canal,Darius did try to to fix it and so did others,Even if Cyrus did Reconstruct the Dam it was Most likely by Assyrian Architects and Not Persians,sicne Persians were Just a Tribe.


POSTAL SERVICE ------ by Cyrus the Great
The first Courier system originated in Egypt,But Other sources claim much earlier dates then that of Cyrus and Darius  for an Assyrian postal system, with credit given to Hammurabi (1700 BC) and Sargon II (722 BC).


STATE AND REGIONS (for example in USA you've got a country and under it, you've got states) -------------- created by Cyrus the Great (Satrap and Satrapies)
Iran Was The First Real Empire (organized, etc...)

This si so dishonest,The Ancient Assyrians had ´´states´´and dsitricts.and the Akkadian Empire was the first Real empire.

GLOVES AND MITTENS---------- known that it was a greek invention but before the date people say greeks created it, Xenophon already talked about the fact that persians wore mittens.
First gloves were found in Egyptian pyramids. Primarily the gloves were available in the shape of bags, without finger holes and only in a while something like mittens was created. Egyptian women protected their hands during work and meals.
REFRIGERATOR--------- 400 B.C. , a huge room called YAKCHAL

ICE CREAM ------- 400 B.C.
Even though ice cream itself leaves no visible mark in ancient history, items and buildings used for its creation can. Icehouses are for instance known to have existed as early as 2,000 years B.C. in Mesopotamia. Wealthy Mesopotamians had them built along the River Euphrates and used them to store food. We also know from historical sources that several Egyptian pharaohs ordered ice to be shipped to them in the hot and sunny regions in which they lived.
Once of the earliest known instances of true sorbet - not only ice and ice houses - are the honey and fruit flavoured snow cones that you could buy in Athenian markets during the 5th century BC. Later on, the Romans adopted a lot of Greek traditions, ice cream eating included. The Roman emperor Nero who reigned from 54 to 68 AD did for instance have ice transported to Rome from the mountains and mixed with fruit and toppings.

In 400 B.C. the Persians invented a cool pudding made from vermicelli and rosewater.

These were all ´´Precursors´´to Ice Cream,Ice Cream is From the 1800´s Secondly:
The Arabs play an important role in the history of ice cream since they began using sugar and syrup instead of honey. In the 10th century B.C., sweet ice cream flavoured with fruits and nuts could be purchased in all major Arab cities. The Arabs also began adding milk to the ice-cream, making it more similar to the type of diary based ice-cream that is most widespread today.

CHINA:
cream, but the first type of Chinese ice cream is believed to have been flavoured with sugar and sold during the warm summer season. Most historians agree that the upper class enjoyed ice-creamed flavoured with fruit juices during the Song Dynasty (960-1279 B.C.) According to "History of food" by Toussaint-Samat the Chinese may even have created a special ice-cream creation method earlier than the Song Dynasty. This method involved pouring snow and saltpetre over containers filled with syrup. Salt will lower the freezing point of water to subzero. Diary products are still rare in Chinese food, but according to legend Mongols introduced the custom of drinking milk to the Chinese during the Yuan Dynasty and this eventually led to the invention of milky ice-cream.

FIRST TEACHING HOSPITAL ------ 271 B.C., intellectual center where you learnt philosophy , medicine, theology, science.

Th Acadamey of gundashipur was inhabited By Nestorian Scientists and Indian and Chinese who had Transltaed the works fro Persians.IT Should also BE Noted  hospitals were widepread in Ancient Egypt.



BATTERY (PILL) ------- 250 B.C. , found in Iran , created under the Parth Dinasty
it was actualy found in Baghdad,and it was speculated to coem from the Parthian PEriod.However, according to Dr St John Simpson of the Near Eastern department of the British Museum, their original excavation and context were not well recorded (see stratigraphy), so evidence for this date range is very weak. Furthermore, the style of the pottery (see typology) is Sassanid (224-640).[3]
Most of the components of the objects are not particularly amenable to advanced dating methods. The ceramic pots could be analysed by thermoluminescence dating, but this has apparently not yet been done; in any case, it would only date the firing of the pots, which is not necessarily the same as when the complete artifact was assembled. Another possibility would be ion diffusion analysis, which could indicate how long the objects were buried.
Second the sumerians most likely had a Battery,

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"Although this collection of objects is usually dated as Parthian, the grounds for this are unclear," says Dr St John Simpson, also from the department of the ancient Near East at the British Museum.

The PArthiasn were Great Warriors but were not known for theyre Scientifcal Achievements.

copper vases plated with silver in the Baghdad Museum, wereexcavated from Sumerian sites in southern Iraq, dating back to at least 2500 BCE. When the vases were lightly tapped, a blue patina or film separated from the surface, which is characteristic of silver electroplated onto copper base. It would appear then that the Parthians inherited their batteries from one of the earliest known civilizations.

Oldest Ancestor of THE PIANO ------ 266 B.C., called tympanon (santur)
Santur is taken from the Nabur a akkadian Invention



The Three Kings (bible)-------- zoroastrians so iranians.. gone rom Kachan
This is a Myth

Saturday, 27 November 2010

The Persian plagiarisms





سنتور(Santur)  this is the Akkadian Tanbur or nabra  wich gave birth to all Corded Instruments(like the Harp and guitar).
Later the tanbur spread throughout the Middle East and also became popular in Mesopotamia and later on in Babylon. The influence of the tanbur is quite wide spread from Turkey, Kurdistan, Iran to Xinjiang China (Turkistan). The tanbur is played solo or is played to accompany vocals or accompanied by other musical instruments in an ensemble settings. Derivatives of the tanbur include the Croatian Tamburitza, Bosnian Sargija, the Greek Tambouras and others.

now The Aryan Nationalists will claim Sassanian made some Contribution to all modern music of this genre,this is False  the santur derived from the  pasaltiru



This is in Fact a Akkadian Harp,the first Harp in the world.the Semitic Rubaba Gave birth to all all corded instruments with baston like the Violin

(Rubaba)




The Semitic god shamash  gave birth to The Persian Sun:


The Semitic god Kuribu gave birth to the Persian Griffin 


Griffin at Assyriopolis(so-called PErsepolis)


The ''Pahlavi''alphabet was also Tooken From Aramaic






It was cyrus who in 575 B.C had made Akkadian the Official Language,and Then Aramaic the Writing language for his New empire.

The Persians never had Their own alphabet but will be Quick to Call other Illteratte.

Nawrouz a copy of Akitu?

The Akitu festival is one of the oldest recorded religious festivals in the world, celebrated for several millennia throughout ancient Mesopotamia.


It is also known as  Khab-Nisan  (First of April)  or Resha d Sheta(Head of the Year)


During the festivities, the creation epic of Enûma eliš was recited, while the people sang all kinds of hymn and songs(like in Nawruz)




It was Traditionally Celebrated on 21 March,but do to changes in the calender the date now is April 1.

in the Julian calendar, vernal equinox moved gradually away from 21 March. The Gregorian calendar reform restored vernal equinox to its original date, but since the festival was by now tied to the date, not the astronomical event, Kha b-Nisan remains fixed at 21 March of the Julian reckoning, corresponding to 1 April of the Gregorian calendar.

When the Medes and Scythians (aided by the Babylonians) attacked Assyria and its capital Nineveh, the Medes came in direct contact with Assyrian civilization.


Persian writers have tried hard to credit the origin of their New Year to the Zoroastrian religious teachings historical evidences indicate that it was borrowed from the ancient Assyrians and Babylonians.The Assyro-babylonian new year originated during the Sumerian period in mid third millennium B.C.. It was the most important religious ceremony which was observed on the day of the spring equinox (March 20-21) considered as the day of creation and also of the rebirth of the nature.






Greek historians repots about Alexander the Great indicate that the Persian new year celebrated in 330 B.C. shared common elements with that of the Assyro-Babylonians. When on the spring equinox of that year Alexander the Great participated in the Persian new year ceremonies he was asked to go through a ritual ordeal which consisted of fighting a "monstrous death demon" and emerge victorious. His participation in this event renewed his office as Ahura Mazda's vice regent on the earth.( (Green, Peter "Alexander of Macedon, 356-323 N.C. A historical biography" copyright 1991, p. 314.)
The fighting of the "monster of death" brings to mind the Mesopotamian creation story of "Enuma Elish" which was recited and reenacted during the Assyro-Babylonian new year
(Alexander Heidel, "The Babylonian Genesis, The Story of Creation", The University of Chicago Press 1951 pp. 16-17.)

THE ASSYRian ritual of royalt

The Assyrian and Babylonian king was considered as the viceroy of god on earth and every new year he had to go through a ritual which led to his dethroning by the high priest in the presence of Marduk or Assur and after confessing he 'had not sinned against the land and had not neglected the divinity' his crown was returned to him by the high priest and his kingship was extended for another year. (Grankfort, Henri "Kingship and the Gods, as Study of the ancient Near Eastern religions", Chicago University Press 1948 p.320)


The PErsiasns copied this and during the time of Alexander the great this concept seems to have bene well practiced,even during the the Sassanian dynasty \ the Persian kings were considered as the regents of the Ahura Mazda and were known as "Bokh" or "Minu Chehre Az Eazadon" i.e. 'related to god', also 'Farah Eizadi' i.e 'guided by god"
(Nafissi, Saeid "Masseheyat Dar Iran", Noor Jahan Tehran, Iran 1964 pp. 40-41)
Bas-reliefs left behind by some Sassanian kings show them receiving their crown form the Mobed Modbedan i.e. the Zoroastrian high priest.


the practice of the Sacred Marriage of the Assyro-Babylonian new year intended to insure the fertility of the land became part of the Persian New year celebrations also.

.the [Achaemenian] king spent the first night of the New Year with a young woman. The offsprings of such union would be sent to a temple and they would normally end up as high-ranking religious officials.
(Massoume, "Iranian New Year Nowruz", @ ersia.org/Culture/nowruz.html, May 2004)

Cyrus the Marduk worshipper

One isncritption states

-"Nabunidus was heretical; he changed the details of worship. He was also an oppressor....But Bel-Marduk cast his eye over all countries, seeking for a righteous ruler.. Then he called by name cyrus, King of Anshan and pronounced him ruler of the lands."
Burn, Andrew Robert "Persia and the Greeks, the Defense of the West 546-478 B.C.", Stm Marin's Press, Inc. 1968 p. 58.)

In another inscription Cyrus declares that Marduk the great lord was pleased with his deeds and sent friendly blessings to 'the King who worships him' and his son Cambyses.
(Prichard p.207)

The First mention of a Persian king participating in the Babylonian New Year Festival was when In 538 Cambyses the son of Cyrus was installed as the king of Babylon and on the 4th day of Nissanu [March 24 of the western calendar] he went through the historic New Year ritual of paying homage to Bell [Marduk] and Nabu thereby he was appointed officially the viceroy of Marduk in Babylon with a headquarter in Sippar.
There is no historical documentation to show that either the Medes or the Persians celebrated the Spring Equinox as New Year before the conquest of Babylon.
If the Persian Nowruz had a Zoroastrian origin, as some claim, elements which were not of the Persian religion would not have been incorporated into it

It was of the utmost beenfit for Persian kings to adopt Akitu so that theyre Legitmacy among Babylonains would stay .








Wednesday, 20 October 2010

Persian Science?

The biggest Lie in Aryanist circles in Undoubtely the Myth of PErsian Scientists.
The First Claim is that the Persians had Scientists Before islam,and afetr the invasions of the Muslims,the muslims had copid this scientifical knowledge.

lets see the auhtenticity of this claim:

1.The Only Persian Scientist Aryanists can Give is Borzuya

However Borzuya only Translated the Indian Works into Pahlavi,These works were Herbal Knowledge and had nothing to do with any Inventions.

Furthermore he was only a Pyschician,he was not a Scientist.

Herbal Knowledge is Great in All but if we were to call this Science we must include the Native Americans and others into the list of Great scientists after all they did have the best herbal knowledge.


Science must be Defined as having invented something,a new idea,or a new concept.

Did The Avesta contain Science?

the Zoroastrian books contained some knowledge of medicine,this is similar to Ayurveda among the Indians,it claims to be From the Aryan god Brahman,and The avesta medecine claims to be from Their diety ahura Mazda,it is entitrely lickely the aryan tribes of the Persians and The Indians got this Tribal knowledge from the same Source.

However all Cultures had Herbal Treatments,and Even the Hadith Books have Sections called Kutub Al-Tibb(books of Medecine)wich conmtain Hadiths From the prophet Muhammad(sws)on Medecine.

Furthermore the bible also contains Passages on Medecine but it Also contains Scientifical Errors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hNfesNQv2E Scientific errors in the Bible: Light of Moon


the Same is with the Zoroastrian Books,it contains Scientifical Errors

1. It is said that Hormuzd granted prophethood to Yim (Noah), but he refused to take that responsibility. Similar actions of disobedience to God are ascribed to Vakhshur (prophets), which are contrary to reason and common sense. Did not God know before hand that such and such person was not fit for the onerous work of a prophet? Vakhshur or prophets come into the world as models and, examplaries, and if they themselves begin to disregard God's commandments, what guidance will they give to others?
2. It is believed that a dead body makes unclean the earth, the air and the men who carry it; and that the wards of hell enter into a dead body and on seeing a dog they leave the body and fly away. (Vendidad. VIII: 14-21) All this is nothing but old superstitions.
3. Women are considered to be so unclean and dirty during their days of menstruation that even their meals are not properly served to them. Food can not be handed over to these unclean women, but is thrown away from a distance in a pan or pot. They can not eat to their fill nor can they drink such a pure thing as water, except when they begin to die of thirst. (Fargard V:45, VII:70)
4. Killing a dog is more punishable an offence than a man's murder. Even giving bad food to a dog is also more punishable than killing a man. Ninety lashes is the punishment for a murder and two hundred iashes for improperly feeding a dog. If a woman drinks water after giving birth to a child, she is punishable with two hundred lashes; and the penalty for an unclean man's touching water or a tree is four hundred lashes. Burying a dead body or burning it, is an offence that cannot be atoned or pardoned at all. (Fargard, IV:49, VII:20, VI:5, V:39-44, VI:47 and VIII:22-29)

(Note the quran is based on science and has no scientific errors like these false books)



So this can not be used as a Excuse to say there was science in Pre-islamic PErsia.


2. Lets take a look at the ''Persian Scientists''and see their Actual Origins

Abū ‘Alī al-Ḥusayn ibn ‘Abd Allāh ibn Sīnā, (Born in c. 980  in Afshana,Bukhara)

He was a Khwarizmi Scientists and not a Persian Scientist Furthermore According to Aryanists themselevs eh Translated Indian works into Arabic and he did not Really Invent anything

Abū Naṣr al-Fārābī (Born in c. 872 in Faryab,Khorasan)

There are some Biographers that assert he had a Persian Father but :

According to D. Gutas, "ultimately pointless as the quest for Farabi’s ethnic origins might be, the fact remains that we do not have sufficient evidence to decide the matter(Dimitri Gutas, "Farabi" in Encyclopædia Iranica, Online Edition. accessed April 4, 2010. )

 Ibn Abī Uṣaibiʿa  in his Biography titled Oyun said he was from a Persian Family But other ssuch as Ibn Khallikan  in his Work Waffayat says he was from a Turkish Family .

futhermore his Nisba is Abū Naṣr Moḥammad b. Moḥammad al-Ṭarḵānī

Tarkan is  a Turkish name .and this is his title in Early Works.Works wich stem from his contemporaries.

according to Iraqi Scholars like Ibn Khallikan Awzalaḡ was also among his names and this is a turkish name.

Ibn Khallikan was not a Arabist and had no Bias in Saying this.



Muhammad ibn Zakariyā Rāzī

He was Likely Azeri and Not persian.

Abu Musa Jābir ibn Hayyān

he was a Lakhmi Arab and not a Persian,he was from a christian tribe,but was a muslim.

furthermore he was a Student of the islamic scholar Jafar Bin Muhammad al-Sadiq ,and he learned his Knowledge from Him.

He is Described as ''''the Father of Chemistry'',He invented the Robot 1200 Years ago and he Invented the Aeroplane 1200 Years ago.

in a  Upcoming article i shall mention how he is related to Jafar Bin Muhamamd al-Sadiq.

Ibn Khaldūn

he was a Hadhrami Arab  in his AutoBiography he Says :And our ancestry is from Hadhramaut, from the Arabs of Yemen, via Wa'il ibn Hajar, from the best of the Arabs, well-known and respected." (p. 2429, Al-Waraq's edition)
Ibn Tufail  he was a Qaysi arab .this Tribe was a Adnani tribe famouis in arabia.they also were famouis for fighting in the Battle of Khaybar.

Abū Rayḥān Muḥammad ibn Aḥmad Bīrūnī

He was a Khwarizmi not a Persian.

Abū 'l-Walīd Muḥammad bin Aḥmad bin Rushd

he was Arab not persian


Abū ʿAbdallāh Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī

he was a Khwarizmi and not Persian

Ala al-Din Abu al-Hassan Ali ibn Abi-Hazm al-Qurashi al-Dimashqi
he was a quraishi not persian!

Abū ʿAlī al-Ḥasan ibn al-Ḥasan ibn al-Haytham

He was Arab from a Famouis Tribe from Basra,he was also under the Patronage of the Hashemite Caliph Al-Hakim bi AmrAllah,and he did not base his works except on the Hadiths of Jafar Bin Muhammad al-Sadiq.


Furthermore We have arab Scientisst wich all came before these people:

 ibn Rushd,al-Haythami,Jafar bin Muhammad al-Sadiq,ibn tahrir Baghdadi,al-baqilanni(extended atomism to time and motion)Al-Hajja ibn Yusuf ibn mattar(Mathemitician)(Al-Hamda­ni,a Great yemeni Astronomer)Ibn hubal(kutub al-Tibb(books of medecine)al-Jahizi(a biologist and Mutazili)Ibn al-thahabi(a Omani physchian that migrated to Velencia)Al-Uqlidisi(Arab from Damascus invented Decimals)all did not translate indian works.

But According to Aryanists themselves Their own Alleged Scientists translated Indian Works.



I Rest my Case.



Monday, 18 October 2010

Ashur vs Faravahar

Ashur  :




Ashur  is from 3000 B.C and Represented the Head Diety of the city of Ashur.

He was the main Diety in the Pantheon of Neo-Assyrian gods.
Teh Epithets of This Diety included :

bêlu rabû "great lord", ab ilâni "father of gods", šadû rabû "great mountain", and il aššurî "god of Ashur"


The Symbols of Ashur include :
a winged disc with horns, enclosing four circles revolving round a middle circle; rippling rays fall down from either side of the disc;
2.a circle or wheel, suspended from wings, and enclosing a warrior drawing his bow to discharge an arrow;
3.the same circle; the warrior's bow, however, is carried in his left hand, while the right hand is uplifted as if to bless his worshipers (see picture).


now lets see the faravahar



Now for people who dont know anything about History the Faravahar  The Aechamanid Emperors included ths into their state religion called Zoroastrianism and Spread this Religion thru out there Empire.

in the Avesta there is no mention of the faravahar or anything depicting Ahura mazda,as this was Generally Forbidden .


The Persian god Ahura Mazda hovers above the king in sculptured representations of that high dignitary, enclosed in a winged wheel, or disk, like Ashur, grasping a ring in one hand, the other being lifted up as if blessing those who adore him.''''-




looks like this is a Bida (بدعة)in the Zoroastrian faith!


i hope Persians Abandon this Egyptian Symbol and dont commit Bida in their religion!

Persian Architecture VS.Arabian Architecture

The Persian Architecture(sabk )atleast from Aechamanid times is Hailed as Being a Magnificent Form of Architecture ,But is it Original or Copied From Previouis Cultures(Akkadian,Asyrian,Mesopotamian in General)?

(this does not concern Elamite or Choga Zanbil architecture wich has nothing to do with Aryans,these people were of semitic stock and were forced to minimize their territory because of Persian invasions)


lets Find out!


Persepolis :







Now The Earliest Remains from Persepolis date from around 515 BCE.


Assyria    :


Releifs from a Assyrian Temple:












Now this Winged Bull Style is Orignially Assyrian and was a Mythical figure among them called Aladlamu 

Cyaxares the king of the medes Destroyed Assyria in   612 BC ,and this is probably when the Assimilation of assyrian Architecture into   Iranic Culture Started.











As You Can See This is Directly from Assyrian Culture.

The Elamites also had similar Architecture and depictions for example:





These are Elamite Ziggurats from Chogha Zanbil.

The Elamites were  Semitic and Mesopotamian People and had nothing to do with Iranians,even Though iranans Claim this as there Heritage.

The Hittites also borrowed the Mesopotamian Architecture  :



The Hittite Kingdom was From Circa 1750–1500 BC
The Elamite from  Circa  2700 BC (as a Kingdom not a people)
and susa is From 5000 BC
The Old Assyrian period is from 2000 B.C

Now Lets See Arabian Architecture  :


More Pictures Can be Found here  :

http://www.zubeyr-kureemun.com/SaudiArabia/PhotoGalleryOfMadainSaleh.htm


These Are Tombs From the People of Thamud(3000 BCE)Wich was a Large kingdom and fourished in Southern Yemen and Central Arabia. 

These Are Tombs From the People of Thamud3000 BCE)Wich was a Large kingdom and fourished in Southern Yemen and Central Arabia

Now lets see Sabaean Architecture:










The Dam was Built to Reach whats now the Size of Paris.it was a Engineering Genius of its Time.
Recent archaeological findings suggest that simple earth dams and a canal network were constructed as far back as 2000 BC. The building of the first Marib dam began somewhere between 750 BC and 700 BC and took some hundreds of years to complete.  The dam was of packed earth, triangular in cross section, 580 m in length and 4 meters high. It ran between two groups of rocks on either side of the river and was linked to the rock with substantial stonework. The dam's position allowed for a spillway and sluices between the northern end of the dam and the cliffs to the west. Around 500 BC the dam height was increased to 7 meters, the upstream slope (the water face) was reinforced with a cover of stones, and irrigation was extended to include the southern side as well as the northern side.



Baraqish and the Mina kingdom(1000 B.C)





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3rChxezzQU">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3rChxezzQU</a></div A Journey into Ancient Arabia Part 1

The Yemen Architecture :

The Yemeni Architecture besides that of the Ancient period continues its Originality and Innovative Spirit  :
(Sana'a Yemen)

Najran,Saudi Arabia


Shibam ,Wadi Hadhramawt (2500 Years old)(a Adobe Town):


Rock palaces of Petra  (Built by the nabataeans 168 BC):



As You Can See the Arabian Architecture is Very Origin and did not copy From any Culture like the Persians did.

at 1000 B.C The Arabs were Building Huge Skyscrapers.

at 1000 B.C the Persians were Wandering Central Asia.


With all Chronology in Hand we find Everything in this Culture is copied from Mesopotamian Genius somehow.

Lets See what others have to say about persian art


From the beginning the Persians built on the foundations of the earlier states. The organization of the Assyrians was taken over and improved, and Cyrus himself imported  artists and artisans from Babylonia and Egypt to create his palace and tomb at Pasargadae.
(www.answers.com/topic/persia -)

In the first great period of Persian art, during the reign of the Achaemenids, sculpture was practiced on a monumental scale. About 515 BC, Darius I had a vast relief and inscription carved on a cliff at Behistun. The relief shows him triumphing over his enemies as Ahura-Mazda, the chief Zoroastrian deity, looks on. The carving was derived in plan and detail from  Assyrian models, but the naturalistic treatment of the drapery and the eyes was original.
(www.iranjasminco.com/iran/iran-art.htm -)